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Villainous July

Discussion in 'Elimination Games' started by Sporadic, Jul 5, 2013.

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    Even tho Jellal (well other him) is in my favorite top 3 chars, I can't vote him as villain just because he's not villain to me.

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    Even tho Jellal (well other him) is in my favorite top 3 chars, I can’t vote him as villain just because he’s not villain to me.



    Just like Majin Buu wasn't a villain to you? XD

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    Just because hes not a villain anymore doesn't mean he wasn't in the past. He's done some pretty evil shit from childhood right until he lost his memories after the fight with Natsu at the Tower of Heaven.
     
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    Ovyda wrote:
    Even tho Jellal (well other him) is in my favorite top 3 chars, I can’t vote him as villain just because he’s not villain to me.


    Just like Majin Buu wasn’t a villain to you? XD

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    I missed the part where it was written "Kid" Buu, that's why I said he's not a villain to me because Buu was either neutral or good. That was my mistake, however Jellal case is different.

    He was obsessed. He was never a true villain, he simply wanted more powers and because of that he was obsessed. However, when his eyes was opened, he turned to good side immediately. How can you call someone a villain who can easily change sides? A villain is a villain from beginning to the ending always bad, or I can still accept when at first evil and later on kinda neutral. Jellal became rather important "good" character. It's like calling Rogue and Sting villains too...

    That's how I interpret villains so there's no need to argue on a matter of opinion.

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    Sporadic wrote:

    Ovyda wrote:
    Even tho Jellal (well other him) is in my favorite top 3 chars, I can’t vote him as villain just because he’s not villain to me.


    Just like Majin Buu wasn’t a villain to you? XD

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    I missed the part where it was written “Kid” Buu, that’s why I said he’s not a villain to me because Buu was either neutral or good. That was my mistake, however Jellal case is different.


    Spoiler:

    He was obsessed. He was never a true villain, he simply wanted more powers and because of that he was obsessed. However, when his eyes was opened, he turned to good side immediately. How can you call someone a villain who can easily change sides? A villain is a villain from beginning to the ending always bad, or I can still accept when at first evil and later on kinda neutral. Jellal became rather important “good” character. It’s like calling Rogue and Sting villains too…


    That’s how I interpret villains so there’s no need to argue on a matter of opinion.

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    I'm going to quote you on each line to show you how wrong you are.

    "He was obsessed." Wrong, he was controlled.

    "He was never a true villain, he simply wanted more powers and because of that he was obsessed." Again, wrong. You do remember why he was being controlled by Ultear and why he was building the R System at the tower of heaven right? because it wasn't to, "Simply gain more people because hes obsessed. XD

    "However, when his eyes was opened, he turned to good side immediately. How can you call someone a villain who can easily change sides?" When his eyes opened? You mean when he got amnesia and started remembering who he used to be instead? And that was a pretty huge internal struggle he went through which spanned years. It wasn't "immediately, like you suggested.

    "A villain is a villain from beginning to the ending always bad, or I can still accept when at first evil and later on kinda neutral." Wrong again. Any villain can have an epiphany of some sort of struggle which can eventually lead them on the right path. Just because something happens that changes their allignment doesn't mean they weren't still villains at some point. And considering this is a dubbed community they're just barely getting to the whole Nirvana and Oracion Sies thing

    "It’s like calling Rogue and Sting villains too…" Omega wrong. Rouge and Sting never had evil intentions. It was obviously other people in that guild who did, I'll refrain from going into specifics due to spoilers.
     
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    Jeez. I am so busy and I have to waste time here because you can't understand part "it's a matter of opinion".

    Controlled or obsessed... I don't give a damn. The point is not his true/real intents.

    Yes, it was immediately because I judge this on how anime showed. They skipped years, but who cares about that? He was showed bad guy, the next few eps he's a good guy. That's what I call immediate change.

    I don't really know why you are talking about this... I said before that it's a matter of opinion how people see villains. To me he's not a villain and I have my reasons which you don't approve the same as I don't approve yours. It's just a matter of opinion and there's nothing to talk about. I ain't going to force it on you, nor you will force it on me, so you can give up on it.

    Not that wrong to me. They wanted to crush FT totally until they snapped out later on in the series. Same shit with Jellal just his intentions were bigger. That's exactly why I mentioned them, because they also showed at first "antagonists" but after some series they are neutral or on the good side. This is something I don't call villain if a person becomes good. I know you think different, but that's how it is. You can try replying again, but it won't change anything beside you getting +1 post count.
     
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