The New Release Club's General discussion

My comparison to the original was more to show how those elements (Like a somewhat foolish MC and a plot that mixes serious with light hearted moments) could be done right because while the sequal does share several elements with the original it actually made the show feel worse rather than better. The reason is it feels like it tried to use those elements without any understanding about how to pull it off. A clutz MC can work but they need a certain charm to them that I feel she lacks and her partner just lacks any significant character trait besides being the smarter and more responsible one. Even though many of what I called flaws have been done in other shows that were good they are still flaws because those other shows did them better or in some cases it was their only flaw. Like with Sailor Moon yeah she is a clutzy crybaby but it fits the overall tone and feel of the show better and even if you call it a flaw it's one of the few serious flaws it has. Same with Inspector Gadget that is a pure comedy so goofy heroes and slap stick work for it.

Again it feels like a lot of the things in this show could have worked but just weren't done well. You can just take a bunch of plot elements and character traits, throw them into a bowl, and pull out a good anime. You have to know how to use them and make them work with each other.

 

Well anyway I guess it's time for some first impressions! Note as these are all first episode first impressions most will not be very informed opinons and may change greatly over the next couple episodes. As such I will not give them number ratings just first impressions

• Nanatsu no Taizai- The manga was really good and the anime seems to be following it rather well. The first episode had a nice little taste of action (An entire forest gets blown away with just one sword slash during the fight) and more will come later. Plus things are going to get really awesome once the Knight who is called Greed shows up. If you want something that should have some good action and an interesting plot try check this one out. The manga really was excellent and the anime is shaping up pretty well to. Seriously watch this one now!
• BTW the animation looks a lot like in the manga which is kinda cool since both kinda have a DBZ like feel to them. It's not exactly like DBZ but it just has a similar feel it.

• Akatsuki no Yona- First episode was very good and if the synopsis didn't spoil the first episode it would have almost completely taken me by surprise. If the rest of the series has action like in those last few seconds then this is going to be a good series. If you are looking for a good action adventure series with some romance mixed in this is worth checking out.

• Gugure! Kokkuri-san -This series is both fun and slightly depressing. It's fun because it had me laughing at a couple points but also slightly depressed because that girl is just so pitiful (She is so lonely she thinks of herself as a doll without emotions) but it's also really funny at some points. I will say it's kinda weird how quickly the fox guy gets attached to the girl but overall it was a fun first episode. Those looking for a good comedy might like to check this one out.

• Ore, Twintails ni Narimasu- Meh ...... nothing too special here. A few points worth noting are how it's cliche but in a nostalgic way. The villains are like power rangers cliche with lizard headed bad guys and armies of faceless flunkies and all that stuff. If you were a fan of power rangers as a kid and want to relive that nostalgia a little then you might actually like this for that nostalgia factor. If you hate that kind of shit then stay far away from this show. If you don't care either way but like Gender Bender series or harem anime then you might still want to check this out

• Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de- This seems like a fun show. It's definitely not the high energy of KLK but we knew that already. But as it stands it's a god comedy with some funny moments and the plot itself could be really good depending on where they go with it.

• Hitsugi no Chaika: Avenging Battle-Very good first episode. Picks up right where the previous season left off and still we are getting more questions than answers but in a good way. It's not that they aren't telling us anything but the more they tell us the more questions that are raised as a result. So the plot just gets deeper as it progresses. But now we are finally learning enough to where I can start forming real theories into the mystery of Chaika. I recommend this one to everyone. Although if you haven't seen season 1 yet watch that first.

• Gundam: G no Reconguista- I've actually watched 2 episodes of this and while it's not bad at all I'm just not finding myself particularly interested. Maybe it's just a slow start but so far nothing about this show seems to really be grabbing me. The sorta nostalgic looking art style is interesting though

• Log Horizon 2- Good first episode. Animation is different but not bad so it's just a matter of getting used to the shift. It looks like this will be another good season.

 

I think so. For one thing the animation is much better so you should like that (again I feel a bit of a DBZ vib from it so it's kind of a nostalgic style but it didn't seem low quality) and second the action is much better (only in the last couple minutes of the episode but still pretty cool plus there is more to come). Instead of us basically just getting the main character doing one punch we get a quick little sword fight (Sort of) ending with the top of a mountain being blown away. Plus I've read a bit of the manga and there are some interesting characters later on. Plus the first few minutes show off a bunch of corpses. So yeah I'm pretty sure you should like this at least a bit more than World Trigger.

 

the boob grab is done for comedy than fan service just because of the way he does it and her reaction to it. I don't remember the manga having much fan service (not any more than most shonen anyway) so unless the animators just so wild with adding more that shouldn't be an issue.

 

OK it was completely unexpected: watched the first episode of Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru, I thought it would be a non-action anime but, dammit they lied that it would be Slice of Life, I need something that's not actiony other than Shirobako, who here's watching Amagi Brilliant Park?

 

Me it's a little early though to give a real opinion of this one though. The premise is interesting but it can easily be wasted so how good this series is will greatly depend on just what they do with the premise.

 

Kaito Kid 1412 ep 2's comparison/rating.
This ep was nothing but the entirety of ep 5 of the original. It did introduce new scenes though and like last time added twists to tricks and scenes that made it differ from the original. For example, the biggest twist was Kaito at the end and the tower he used to perform his trick with. In the original he used the lights in the building to do that with, in this one, somehow he made the building become high tech and basically project something that wasn't there. It was less believable as a result but more prettier than the original however, this is what I DIDN'T like about it and which is what altered the ep from the original. Jii-chan was in this ep, he shows up, takes Kaito to get to Aoko but like last time there's not enough time (Again, Jii-chan was NOT in the original ep, more in a mo) So then Kaito like last time comes up with the trick to perform and calls Aoko to begin it. Aoko argued with Kaito on the phone but was more polite, less up set and more civilized than in the original and as a result, was less believable, not to mention she didn;t say a certain choice sentence that was a key factor into showing how upset she was. Lastly, in the original Kaito single handedly performed the trick but in this one he got assitence from Jii-chan which imo wasn't right and ruined it. Now, in the original here is how it actually went down.

Kaito is on his own and is about to miss Aokos party, this original ver. show cases a lot more of Kaito trying his best to get to her before he realizes he won't make it in time and comes up with that trick involving the building. He himself single handedly carries out this trick with NO ONE'S HELP and he himself got no ride from anyone unlike that Jii-chan crap in the new series. He uses lights in the building to pull this off which yes is less pretty than the new series but is a hell of a lot more believable, albeit it also feel less magic where as the new series captured that magical feeling so, it's a win/loss for this trick. Aoko argues with Kaito on the phone, is more upset, more aggressive in relaying how hurt she is and says a certain choice word key sentence to kaito which made it all more believable and so on and of course made it feel like that's something you would do and say if u were put in that same sitch.

One final thing about this ep. Dr. Agasa from Detective Conan was mentioned and is the one who supplied Jii-chan with all those cool gadgets for Kaito to use as Kaito Kid. This imo seriously ruins the whole feel of who Kaito Kid is. He doesn't need assitence from the same doctor that helps Conan nor from anyone really and in the original this whole dr. agasa mess never existed.

Overall, ep 2 was crap comared to the original nd the only good thing about it is A) The building trick feels like magic unlike in the original and B) that the preview shows us ep 3 and it is indeed, a 100% new ep from what I saw! I am looking forward to ep 3 even though, it's very different from the rest of the series (Including original) and even kinda contradicts Kaito Kid himself and so on. (Such as by risking his identity and putting himself and Jii-chan and others in danger)

@Metazoxan how'd ep 2 fair for you?

 

Didn't watch it yet between classes and all the new stuff coming out and the fact episode 2 came out a bit late so I couldn't watch it when I had planned to I'm a little behind on that. I'll catch up on it this weekend though.

 

Yeah it was late for me as well, but alright, I'll wait for you to see it. See you next illusion. *Bows then disappears*

 

Oh I'm watching that too.
I like it too.

SO, ON THIS WEEKS EPISODE OF CROSS ANGE
WE GOT MORE DEATH.



Salute Captain Zola men, she's kissing her girlfriends in heaven.



Also Ange pissed herself.

 

Shockingly I actually watched some stuff yesterday. Some of it was from the summer line up, but I'm still gonna give my thoughts on it anyway.

Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de: I saw a .gif from episode two of this and thought it looked pretty funny. Needless to say I loathe Japanese humor (I just don't get it) and this was full to the brim with it. There were a couple parts in it that actually made me laugh a lot. Then the end of the last episode shocked me.

Spoiler

The episode dealt with a girl misreading a letter the MC sent her as a love letter. When he finally told her the mistake the anime took it in a very real, very mature and serious way. Needless to say I really liked episode twos ending.

Rail Wars!: It's awful. The main character does nothing and is bland. Red hair girl I renamed "B**** Tits McGee". The animation is some of the worst I've seen. Yet I'm still watching it. Dunno why. Only good thing about Rail Wars! is it's opening.

Persona 4 The Golden Animation: So far it's... well Persona 4 with extra story stuff in it. A lot of the pacing is different and the animation seems a bit odd, but other then that it's okay.

DRAMAtical Murder: I honestly have no idea what to think of this series right now. So far it's pretty okay, but it has yet to leave a mark on me. I like Ren so far (the MC's dog shaped robot buddy).

Ore Twintails ni Narimasu: I'm getting a Daimidaler vibe from this. As in I shouldn't like it but I absolutely love it. Then again I'm a giant Sentai/Power Rangers fanboy so the fact that it's like that is helping. Plus it's funny so you can't go wrong with that.

Orenchi no Furo Jijou: Downloaded this because it sounded really odd and was only four minutes long. Only seen the first ep of it but it seems.... different. The opening made me laugh because it's so out of place with everything else.

But yeah, guess who's back?

 

Like I said fans of power rangers are likely to enjoy this show as it seems to draw a lot from that style.

 

Update: Watched the first episode of Garo Honoo no Kokuin. Best show of fall line up. I know I'm biased because it reminds me so much of Kamen Rider/Super Sentai/Power Rangers, but it's just.... so cool and so good. Love the animation so far (I even kind of like the CG) and it's just cool. Only complaint is that the MC, Leon, is so f***ing angsty but meh. I also kind of fanboyed during the transformation scene ._.

 

Just watched episode 16 of Akame ga Kill, and I do like how the fighting is going. Still as action packed as I expect it to be. I'm sure Mafia is not happy about a certain someone getting hurt. Not sure how they are going to play off that injury or if they'll do the same thing they did with Justice Girl.

 

really it honestly just seems like you don't like things for not being like the original. It's not like the old man being there hurt anything. They just showed him to give him something to do so he was just there to give a hand it's obvious kaito could have done all that on his own. Now maybe the phone conversation was missing something but to me it got the message across pretty damn well. Plus I kinda like how she wasn't screaming to much about it. To me it looked like she was upset but also sad to the point that she just didn't even feel like yelling. So it seemed plenty believable to me.

Again he did do the trick by himself because all we see the old man do is type on a computer which kaito could obviously do by himself. The old man was just added because they wanted to give that guy more of a presence. It doesn't take away from Kaito's ability. As for the trick I agree it's not super beleivable but isn't that the idea of Magic? If everything he did was see through to the point we completely believed it then Kaito would fail as a magican. Plus this way is a lot prettier so I think this change was for the best overall.

What difference does it make if Agasa made his gadgets? You knew Kaito most likely wasn't making them himself (He's a magican not a scientist) so he was getting the stuff from somewhere. I like how it's implied Agasa is involved as it ties into Detective Conan more.

Now I'm not saying everything you said is 100% wrong (particulartly the part about the phone call) but I think calling it crap to the original is definitely too much and is more just your love for the original making you biased. As for me I liked the episode very much. Kaito's tricks were interesting and I like the way things are being paced. You said this was episode 5 in the original but I think waiting until episode 5 to show the bad guys is a bit long. So if I had to pick one thing that I can say is better than the original without even seeing it it's the pacing of this one.

 

Kaito Kid 1412 ep 3
This was the first ever ep to feature an entirely new story and it was GOOOD! I do still feel it could have been better but, I admit it keeps with the feel and momentum this new series has. Plus the way Kaito Kid was brought in was believable enough. My only real complaint was when the lights were turned own, Aoko (Still drunk and yes it was obvs she was going to GET drunk, seen it enough times now but always like it when that happens lol) was still holding the dummy of Kaito and there was the real Kaito practically next to it and Aoko noticed there were two Kaitos (Too drunk to know what was going on) however, the rest of the people in there couldn't have been THAT stupid and musta figured it out, even though only one of them showed eve a hint at seeing what was going on. Still, this ep was centered around the themes of pool (Billards) and magic so while it was very different from what it normally is, it still surprisingly managed to keep enough feel of Kaito Kid to make it work. Ep 4's preview confirms what the theme song confirmed long ago that the detective is coming back. Couldn't tell if new story or if old ep so we'll see however, without the witch being present things will be different if it's THAT ep and since the witch isn't in the song, I question if A) There'll be another song later on with her in it or B) She won't be in it witch would be a shame really. I'm not too excited about ep 4 tbh, mainly because I'm tired of these recap eps...

I'd imagine that's how it is for most people. lol However, in my case I am being a critic here because of key elements they left out, changed etc. Sure the show is good but, the original so far was better. Only 2-3 eps from the original were either on par with this series or not as good as this series, 2 of which were the last two eps I believe. True, and I will admit that I did find it odd that Gramps wasn't helping Kaito Kid in the original, well, he did but not much. The most I remember him helping him was in a few eps where he drove him to and from places he needed to be in order for his heists to work and, tbh, that was perfectly fine with me as the show went on. Kaito has all he needs from his Dad anyway, only needs a ride occasionally and the rare help escaping but, if I say more that'd spoil the original and possible this new anime depending how thigns go. As for Gramps shown typing, it was more than that actually. In the original Kaito is the one pullig the trick off using the devices to do so, however, in the new one Kaito just tells Gramps when to do this and that and Gramps is the one operating the machinery to pull the trick off and when u have someone assit u like THAT, imo u can hardly call it your own trick when someone else is the one pulling it off for you. That's where I take issue, gramps giving Kaito a ride? Ok, I can let that slide even if it was better how Kaito was running in the original but gramps pulling the trick off in place of Kaito? Nope, not happy one bit about that and yes, it was better for the new version's trick involving the building, I agree with your words there on it feeling more magical and such but even then, magic can be explained and the only way such a high tech magic trick could work is if, all kinds of high tech equipment was all conviently in one place and least we forget, Kaito came up with that trick on the fly, so its pretty unbelievable and unrealistic for all that equipment to be placed there when there was no time to get it set up where as in the original because it was more believable, we don't have that prob but yes, it feels less magical. The prob here is, the creators shoulda done a high quality trick but make it like all the others, explainable and believale since that's how ALL of Kaito/Kaito Kids tricks are and this new one was not explainable besides by some miraculously stupid miracle, all the needed equipment was there. : P Well if u'd heard Aoko's phone convo in the original u might be saying otherwise and if not, well, to each their own as they say. lol

It makes a hugh dfferance. For one, in the Conan series Agasa never lets on that the gadgets Kaito Kid is using are his and knowing how agasa is, there's no way he wouldn't make some type of reaction even if its just facial/body language but nothing. Further more, this also ruins the original description of the story which goes something like "After Kaito inherits the role of Kaito Kid from his Dad, he sets out to steal jewels in hopes of luring out his father's killers." This has a lot more implications than you'd think so let me list them.

1. The bad guys in the original as well as this one believe the new Kaito Kid (Kaito) o be the old Kaito Kid (Kaito's Dad) and that's not just because of their appearances being so similar but because of the tricks both pulled off and the gadgets they both used such as the hang glider for example. By saying Agasa made Kaito Kid's gadgets this destroys it all!

2. Having Kaito have to rely n inventions made by someone else (Besides his dad) just ruins WHO Kaito Kid is over all. I doubt u'd understand why I feel that way and that's ok.

3. I forget but I believe there was something else too.

Thres no doubt if I'd seen this new series vs. the old I'd be swaying to the new series for a brief time. I do believe I'd still feel the old was better than the new (So far) and as for the new being crap, I don't recall saying that exact word but if I did it would have been when u compare it to the original as so far the original was better however, I do not give a final judgment/rating until I finish a series (Unless I dro it which is extremely rare) and what I've been doing so far is comparing any ep that is from the old eps as well as as of ep 3, comparing the series' feel etc. over all but I can't stress the word "so far" enough for when it comes to the whole series as until it finishes airing or the majority (like 23 eps left) then I cant give it a fair enough rating/view but for each ep individually I can do what I've been doing so far. And yes, on it's on this new series is quite good. I bet u'd undertand better if u started watching the old eps. lol

Nearly forgot, yes ep 2 was actually ep 5 of the original and, that ep confirmed what I thought, that for at least ep 2-4 of the original, that u can watch them and include them in the story of the new series seeing how Kaito briefly mentioned "That makes the 5th heist so far" and then the bad guys made contact. u have heist #1 in ep 1 of both the original and new and in ep 2-4 of the original u have the other 4 heists which Kaito is referring to in the new series. and while 5 eps to lure out the bad guys may feel like too long for u, just look at how long it took to "lure out" the organization in Conan, 130 dub eps and STILL didn't lure them out, only made contact and a lot of contact once u get into the sub series. (From what I've seen in the movies at least regarding the sub eps) U can't just wave a wand and go from the end of ep 1 to saying I'll lure them out to the beginning of ep 2 and them show up like that. That is TOO soon! But, to each their own as they say. lol