Log Horizon discussion

just finished watching episode 9
shiroe just became my one of my favourite protagonists ever
the guy is a mastermind
adding to the point that no one is trying to leave the game
hmm... that does seem to be one of the biggest flaws of the anime more so now after this episode cause...(spoiler)

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cause they have established there on government , so it seems like they plan to stay in the game for either a very long time or forever, the council should probably address the issue of how to leave the game, after a few episodes

oh and hiki don't mind me i'm just going to post a few of my own screenshots cause I really liked this episode over the rest
don't get offended plz *puppy dog eyes*

 

I just got done with ep 9 today. Turns out my hypothesis was very close. Can't wait to see what the Villain in Glasses does next.

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Sorry only three images this time as my router is experiencing connectivity issues. Its age is taking its toll.

And I couldn't get offended by other taking screenshots. (^^) I like to see others enjoying themselves with anime and wanting to share it with others.

 

just finished watching episode 9
shiroe just became my one of my favourite protagonists ever
the guy is a mastermind
adding to the point that no one is trying to leave the game
hmm… that does seem to be one of the biggest flaws of the anime more so now after this episode cause…(spoiler)Spoiler:
cause they have established there on government , so it seems like they plan to stay in the game for either a very long time or forever, the council should probably address the issue of how to leave the game, after a few episodes
oh and hiki don’t mind me i’m just going to post a few of my own screenshots cause I really liked this episode over the rest
don’t get offended plz *puppy dog eyes* Spoiler:




Well while the lack on mention about trying to get out still bothers me episode 9 seems to imply that they do want to get out but since a giant guy in a red robe didn't ooze through the sky and tell them how to get out they are taking the same sort of mentality as people stuck on a deserted island. This is still the anime's greatest flaw but it's kinda feelings like less of a flaw if you look at it that way. It's just the way Shiroe talked about not being able to get out this episode felt like he still wanted to get out but was sorta resigned to focusing more on survival than escape. I might also just be giving this show too much credit since I'm loving it more and more by the day. Every last member of the cast is at least a little fun and plenty are a lot of fun. I love the humor and they made something as simple as a meeting feel epic. If this keeps up I might even change my rating to 8.5/10 or even 9/10. It's just handling the premis of being trapped in an game world so well and does a lot of things right that SAO and even .Hack didn't do so well. It's not without it's flaws but no show is truely perfect and the good in this show is far outweighing the bad right now.

 

''his face looks like its been through a shredder''. haha i liked that one.

 

”his face looks like its been through a shredder”. haha i liked that one.


It's kinda sad though because he probably made his character like that to look tough but now he's stuck with that face unless he can maybe find that potion ninja girl used at the beginning.

 

@metazoxan that potion was a rare item drop from a special quest though
i wonder what shiroe is going to do with those guy stuck in the guild room
also,those beginners haven't officially left the guild yet (unless u count running out of the door as leaving the guild )

 

@metazoxan that potion was a rare item drop from a special quest though
i wonder what shiroe is going to do with those guy stuck in the guild room
also,those beginners haven’t officially left the guild yet (unless u count running out of the door as leaving the guild )
I know that is why I said maybe find it. It's not impossible but probably unlikely meaning the guy is stuck with that face.He probably plans to find a set of laws that everyone can mostly agree on then use his power of the guild hall to enforce those laws. Laws will probably include things like you can't force anyone to be a member and you especially can't forcibly hold people in your guild, you can't hunt and loot other players, and maybe even a law banning the harassment of NPC characters since they seem self aware. I'd imagine some of the laws he plans to make will be to that effect.

 

Ep 10 was great.
They discussed more about laws proposed and how everything was going to work.
They may not be focusing on getting out by damn it they are gonna make everyone work together and prevent wars which I think is just as important!
Teamwork is definitely gonna go far, something that could have helped SAO. Unifying the guilds and making partners.

Also the curry scene... Laughed my ass off for at least 5-10 minutes!
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Ep 10 was great.
They discussed more about laws proposed and how everything was going to work.
They may not be focusing on getting out by damn it they are gonna make everyone work together and prevent wars which I think is just as important!
Teamwork is definitely gonna go far, something that could have helped SAO. Unifying the guilds and making partners.Also the curry scene… Laughed my ass off for at least 5-10 minutes!

Yeah the curry scene was funny. Also it seems like now that the players are getting their act together the NPC's are going to be the next problem they are going to have to deal with.

 

But where could they start if they wanted to get out? In SAO there was a clear goal that would get them out of the game, but i don't think anything was mentioned to the players here.

Ep 10 was great. I love the things they thought of.
Also, i'm so happy i can finally post here again. Missed like 2 pages of discussion due to not being caught up to my animes.

 

Oooookaaaaaaaay, caught up nows. My first desire to start watching this was how Super told me there was a male kitteh who nyan'd, I couldn't resist seeing how nyaning would suit a male character. My second desire came from listening to the OP for the elim game, which was more that I wanted to get this anime ASAP via getting my friend to download it for me.
Before I start, may I just ask, who here has properly played an MMO before? Just that the vibe I was getting from your comments on respawning and NPCs said no.

Anyaway, let's see if I can remember all my points... (and a little copy-paste from recent watched thread )

From the start, this anime grabbed my full interest. It gives me an excited type of nostalgia, of the fun times before I got bored of WoW. In the beginning, I was doubting that my mind would be able to take being in that world, even with how cool it was; with what little pleasure that food had being removed, and the whole respawn=no end thing; but then, just as I come to terms with that I don't like the idea of eating in the first place so the bland food wouldn't be much of a step down, Nyanta comes along as an expert cook. XD Oh, and I saw someone here ask why the creators of the game bothered programming in so much food, something like "Just put in some crackers and water and be done with it." Which I must say, there was an absolute plethora of programmed food back in my WoW days, so something like this isn't out of the ordinary whatsoever.

On to characters. Akatsuki and Nyanta both qualified for my fave-character list pretty much as soon as they got decent screentime. Akatsuki is hilarious and adorable, and Nyanta is like the perfect representative for male kittehs, desu-nya~. =^_^= Oh, and while I remember, has anyone noticed whether Nyanta has a tail? I just get so into all the discussions and battles that I always forget to look for a tail. Also, Akatsuki's true age and height, is she a midget or something, or is this just one of these anime-style-quirks things again?
The only character so far that stands out for me not liking them is that little girl who's obsessed with Nyanta, she's just sooooooooooooooo annoying.

All this economy stuff is really intriguing for me too; I love games where side-parts have you buying properties that you can customise and get income from. It also reminded me of the time just before I got bored of WoW, where the professions I had kept since I first started were the perfect combination for me to make an absolute killing in end-game via resource collection followed by selling on the auction house.

The combat is pretty neat too, with all the supporting each other and whatnot. But, this is where one of my major gripes with this series comes in; Has anyone else noticed how much they repeat all the explanations?? Like, that exploding-thorns spell; they went over its explanation like three times. It might be a little bit of the MMO "veteran" in me talking, but surely not even the MMO noobs need it to be explained more than once??

The other major gripe I have, is that there seems to be a number of what I tend to call "ownage moments"; scenes where they're designed to be all uber cool and filled with awe and other things like that, and they achieve it for first-time watchers, but I can already tell that they'd probably be pretty crap and let-down-ish moments if I ever watch the series again (which I probably will for characters and whatnot XD).

Nyantheless, this series has totally got me into the mood to start an MMO again. A friend of mine recently started this top-down style MMO I saw a review of a while ago and thought of looking into later on, so I'm thinking I'll catch up to her so we can do quests together and whatnot. ^_^

My final point; what is the actual day that this gets released each week? Is it on Saturday (locally for me), or is that just when my source uploaded it?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I'm gonna go screencap a couple of those (are they for adbreaks?) mid-show interruptions for use as wallpapers. =^_^=

 

Soooo... each time we watch an ep, we comment on it? That how this works?
I'm not good at putting my thoughts into words, nor at remember things about things even if I just watched them, but I am fairly good (I think) at continuing discussion after someone else starts. So come on, guys, help me out here.

Anyaway, my (small amount of) thoughts on ep 12:
I'm amused at how they had the thing like a rhythm game there. XD
I am intrigued at what they're gonna be doing regarding the NPCs' quests (or shall we say, lack of them?).
Akatsuki was funny again. XD
Curious as to what those NPCs are gonna be doing as a result of their private discussion.
The dungeon; what the actual hell do those kids think they're doing?! I mean, the standard party make-up (in WoW at least) is one tank, one healer/support, and three damage dealers (archers, warriors, mages, etc). What do they go in with? A tank (so far, so good), a mage who thinks he's a tank, and three supports. Like seriously, wtf??
Oh, and this is the halfway mark, isn't it? Does this mean they're probs gonna be changing the music next week? I hope not, I really like this music...

 

Hehe, I ams teh usefuls~ (hopefullys)
(Hey guys, feel free to jump in anywhere here )

Can't blame you, MMOs are very addictive. XD

My opinion of Akatsuki is purely my own, I was going into this blind, save for your luring me in here with Nyanta. Though, can you blame me? Is "My lord, may I flykick this pervert in the face?" not the most brilliant thing ever? XD
Yeah, shame about that. I mean, he's a humanoid cat, fur and everything, but no tail?
And there's that whole "There's no girls on the internet!!" thing too, that might have contributed to her choice.
It's not that she likes Nyanta that annoys me, she's just annoying in general. I think her voice would have to be the most irritating part.

I believe your problem with the explanation came in because you were watching it in bulk

Wait, isn't there someone on here who normally limits himself to one unique episode per day, precisely so that he can avoid things like this?
Meh, I suppose it is for the MMO noobs, and not the vets, afterall.

Well, I guess I just always saw a lot of movies with these sorts of moments as a kid, and there was that whole rewatching of Soul Eater that caused me to drop half a star of rating cause it was just pretty lame that second time. Perhaps this is just a pre-emptive and subconscious reaction...

Just like how Guitar Hero can teach kids to be real musicians? XD
But yeah, it was pretty neat to have them dance like that in the scene.

Sorta like what I remember from Pokémon Dungeon, with a message board and stuff listing the available quests. And that way, it wouldn't even be limited to NPCs to offer the quests either. That'd be pretty neat.

Yup, their fault too for setting them up for failure. Though, maybe it was as even as it could get with the newbies who were taking part...
And yeah, the standard thing for MMOs (and pretty much all games) is that the less damage you can take, the more you can dish out. Mages and other damage dealers are pretty effectively glass cannons.

I hope there's a decent internet signal in SA; I needs mah Log Horizon!! XD

 

I don't think i have ever played an MMO either. Not really a big gamer.

It's been a few eps since i replied in here. Had to go through some wall of texts, something i absolutely hate
I'm enjoying pretty much each episode. It's gotten better again these last 2 eps.

I'm not a huge fan of Akatsuki and Nyanta. But they arent that bad either. Akatsuki is a moe character, the type i hate the most and Nyanta is a good guy i guess. I'm still clueless how its possible to have a cat character while evryone went to their original appearance.

About the dungeon quest, i agree with Knight. It's the instructors fault. The ones who went in are still noobs. The girl even called Shiroe the night before because she was worried. If i remember correctly, the kids didn't even play such a long time before the ''apocalypse''.

Speaking of the ''apocalypse'', i found it pretty interesting that the NPC's mentioned they know what actually went down when the humans got trapped. Maybe they are working towards some secret that could lead to them being free again?

Also, i have a question. In this situation, could you guys see the NPC's as human? If you were trapped in the game like that.
I myself am not sure if i could. When playing such game on the computer i surely don't see them as humans, obviously. It would be easier if i was there in person, but still the thought of them being programmed into the game and not having a soul would fly through my head probably.

 

Akatsuki is a moe character, the type i hate the most and Nyanta is a good guy i guess. I’m still clueless how its possible to have a cat character while evryone went to their original appearance.


So Super, what's your opinion on Akatsuki regarding this? Or do you not not like her because she's useful? XD
From my understanding, the appearance that each character has isn't necessarily their appearance IRL, even if they chose to be a plain human character. What everyone tried to do is change their character to be closer to their normal height.



Speaking of the ”apocalypse”, i found it pretty interesting that the NPC’s mentioned they know what actually went down when the humans got trapped. Maybe they are working towards some secret that could lead to them being free again?


Yeah, and I like it how they call it "The Event in *what month was it again?*" I call shenanigans!!



Also, i have a question. In this situation, could you guys see the NPC’s as human? If you were trapped in the game like that.
I myself am not sure if i could. When playing such game on the computer i surely don’t see them as humans, obviously. It would be easier if i was there in person, but still the thought of them being programmed into the game and not having a soul would fly through my head probably.


Kinda like the thing, "what is human?" XD
They're artificial intelligence (at this point at least), and they have human appearance. If I was there, it most likely would.

And lols, Super wanted more activity here, but didn't even respond to my post himself. XD (messing with you here )

 

What the heck? I made a post a while ago and I don't see it. Did it somehow get deleted or did I just not hit the submit button properly? I had just woken up when I posted so I might have forgotten. Well I'm not typing all that out again but there is at least one thing I want to clear up for now.

I’m not a huge fan of Akatsuki and Nyanta. But they arent that bad either. Akatsuki is a moe character, the type i hate the most and Nyanta is a good guy i guess. I’m still clueless how its possible to have a cat character while evryone went to their original appearance.


That was only Akatsuki. The potion to change appearance was rather rare so hardly anyone had one. Shiroe gave her his only one since she needed it more than him (Since she was stuck with a male avatar). So everyone else either made their avatar like their real apperance from the start or they still don't look anything like their real selves. For eample Shiroe commented in the first episode how he was having trouble walking because he was taller than his real body.

This isn't like SAO where a part of them all being trapped was everyone being changed to their real appearance. I think it's a safe bet to say that Akatsuki looks pretty identical to her real self (Because why would she chose such a short height?) but everyone else is unkown. So we don't know what any of them look like in the real world.

 

I like that things actually are taking a more serious turn and Shiroe is actively trying to find a way to get home.
I think that making deals with PotL is essential to their success.

 

Hey guys, guess what? I'm currently in the middle of an ~8 hour drive to SA, my brother wanted me to give him something to watch over the course of the journey, so I gave him Log Horizon, and he's not disliking it. XD

 

Well i don't hate Akatsuki for that reason. Because she is useful. But as a moe she is very annoying to me. She would probably be my winner in moevember though, i think.

I guess you guys are right. I must have messed SAO and Log Horizon up.

@Keiichi, i forgot to mention that i think. I love that Shiroe is starting to think of a way out of there. About time though. Any ideas yet how he will do it?