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Florida Shooting

Discussion in 'Hall of the Elders' started by Vashnik, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Vashnik Reagent Lord Forum Administrator

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    After the Florida shooting, a trend has come back once again in an effort to ban all guns. Under the guise of "banning assault weapons" in an effort to target the AR-15, they use "assault weapons" very loosely and perpetuate further ignorance of the subject. The new part of this trend is blaming the NRA (or National Rifle Association) for the mass shooting. What these anti-NRA, anti-gun activists want to do, but won't come out and say it: Ban all guns.
    Facts about the shooting:
    1. Shooter had police called on him 39 times in relation to violence. By law, this means he shouldn't even be eligible to buy ANY gun.
    2. FBI ignored tips given to them about the shooter's violent history.
    3. Sheriff's department hesitated in doing their job. The result 17 kids killed. 14 hospitalized.
    4. This all could have been prevented if the government did their job.
    What the anti-NRA / anti-gun activists aren't doing? Blaming the very government that failed to do their jobs. Instead, they're demanding the government ban guns out of emotion, instead of coming up with practical solutions that is still constitutional. Many of them are very ignorant on the very tools they want to ban, and that's a problem that will hurt everyone's freedom, especially when the government was complacent in the shooting and did nothing to prevent it.
    Here are some facts on the AR-15 (constantly being targeted by anti-gun people):
    1. The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.”
    2. AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.
    3. AR-15-style rifles look like military rifles, such as the M-16, but function like other semi-automatic civilian sporting firearms, firing only one round with each pull of the trigger.
    4. Versions of modern sporting rifles are legal to own in all 50 states, provided the purchaser passes the mandatory FBI background check required for all retail firearm purchasers.
    5. Chamberings include .22, .223 (5.56 x 45mm), 6.8 SPC, .308, .450 Bushmaster and about a dozen others. Upper receivers for pistol calibers such as 9 mm, .40, and .45 are available. There are even .410 shotgun versions.
    6. AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber and in most cases are chambered in calibers less powerful than common big-game hunting cartridges like the 30-06 Springfield and .300 Win. Mag.
    7. These rifles are used for many different types of hunting, from varmint to big game. And they’re used for target shooting in the national matches.
    Here is the most recent stats for homicides (murders) by weapon: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls
    What anti-gun activists claim: 55K gun deaths
    What anti-gun activists don't tell you: Of those 55K claimed gun deaths, very few are murder related. Majority are suicide related (about 63%).
    CDC Homicide Stats | Death: Final Data for 2013
    Interestingly: Assault by firearms resulting in death is number 107 in the list of leading cause of deaths, out of 113 listed in their research. Seen Here, pages 3 - 5. Motor vehicle accidents are still deadlier than firearms according to the list.
    Are anti-gun activists being intellectually dishonest in their agenda?

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