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Important Inactive Groups Report (December 31st 2014)

Discussion in 'Information & Updates' started by Sporadic, Jan 5, 2015.

  1. Miss Elegent Serenity Your loveable social admin & RP president Moderator Community Relations Content Manager

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    I think it would be better to change it to a GvG group or even make it a GvG thread. Viewing archived threads from JD the 'guys only' and 'girls only' threads were only kept active cause of the trolling of the opposite sides. When the girls only club was created it was supposed to be a refuge for the girls but as its pointed out and I pointed out there aren't enough girls to keep such a thing going. Yes we have gained a few extra females, but lets be honest here, the ones that are here are here are NOT here to talk about things such as their hair, nails ect. Most of them are into things like games, anime, cosplay ect things there are already discussions on. I'm gonna say this now from the beginning I knew the groups was gonna be a failure, since everyone was against having the guys involved, which was a bad move, because no matter how much no one wanted to admit it they WERE the ones that kept the thread going.
    An example, in JD, myself, Red and a few other females were having fun trolling back and forth with the guys on the thread. but once someone complained about the guys being in the thread and shogun deleted half the comments the thread died. I was honestly a little upset about the ordeal because what was fun for everyone came to a halt cause of the guys posting in the thread. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE THREAD WAS TO DO THAT!!

    I'm not gonna agree to either of the options given. I stand by what I say should be done and I am not changing my mind about it. I sat back and went along with this whole ordeal, argued with everyone MY opinions on it only to be told "well this is this and that is that yadda yadda yadda" to see what I knew was gonna happen actually happen. So I am gonna toot my own horn and say this "I was right". So for once I am gonna put MY say in the matter cause other then Natsurusan and myself none of the other females who said they wanted a part of it, gives a flying ....well you know the rest :p or they would have done something to keep it going!.

    SO MY SAY: Make it a "Guy vs Girls" or "Girls vs Guys" club or thread whatever. Stop separating the gender and making things so strict. ITS THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH DRAWS THE ATTENTION AWAY!! Combining the two would allow both sex's to post and do what they want whether to troll, have discussions with one another whatever. This whole gender separation in my opinion is BS!
     
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    JustDubs Designers Club Announcement: Lately I've been dragging and brunt out designing I have an idea to recover from that. I'm gonna start (Now I said this before but this time I'm more confidant) very soon it's gonna include "Behind-the-Scenes: Making Sigs, Banners,Icons,Themes etc." "Tutorials: Make amazing Designs that looks like a pro did it or other little things."
    (Wish I have access to the JD Youtube so I can post freely and edit the images like avatar and banner....)

    It's gonna look like JD 100% like it never left! I love JD so expect a top notch Throwback.
    (it's gonna be cool to have 3 different throwback designs made from 3 members)
     
  3. Sporadic Site Dev Moderator Director

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    If you want stuff posted on the YT page you'll have to upload them to mega and send them my way. If you start giving me a decent amount of videos you can have access to the channel. If all you're gonna do is change the images on there there's no need to have access.
     
  4. Natsuru-san Trophy Hunter

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    @Miss Elegent Serenity You know what Serenity, history LOVES to repeat itself, so, I have now made u the admin of the GOS and stepped down as admin, and mod and even as a member of the GOS! If you think your idea is what will do it, you can be admin. That's what the WAR! thread was for, and the Girl's only thread before it though. You can take any further matters up with @Kiri but as for me, I have HAD IT with the GOS! Like you, I put in a lot of time and effort into this, and at least 3 other girls including Kiri herself did help put in 1-2 hrs when we were deciding on how to make the group, so that's not nothing. (Note: Kiri put in more than 2 hrs) The only sad fact is, they did not put in any real time if at any into the group once it was made and we know how it all went down hill from there. I TRIED to create a place for us, and I also was happy most agreed to allow the guys in there as long as rules were put in place. Also, the GOS was NEVER limited to talking about girly things like Nails, hair etc. it was what WE wanted it to be about but sadly, no one besides the boys partook practically. (Some partook, but not for long and I couldn't continue posting when no one was posting)

    As for your example, maybe you remember just who it was that FOOLISHLY did that? If not, allow me to expose the dastardly criminal who was responsiable for ruining the original GOT, the culprit was, yours truly, me! That's right, I admit to doing this act, however, at the time two things had happened. 1st and formost, I was a brand new member who had just found her way to JD as well as later the GOT, I was new, I didn't know it was a game (Baka, I know) so I thought, there must be a way to drive the boys out surely? Then it hit me, make a post, telling the girls to just ignore the boys, and, they did. As for @Shogun13 , he may've deleted those posts on his own or was it because of something I or someone else said? It wasn't many posts and he stopped not long after but what really drove it to it's grave was my idea which the girls acted on. The 2nd thing that hit the nail in the coffin was the fall of the original JD site. Then after it didn't get revived, I revived the GOT, only for the biys to spam (Literal actual spam) and torment the girls (That was NO game) and then we got DT finally, so after another month and no revive and trying to prevent that boy spam from happening again, I thought of using the new club system, and with the help of U, Kiri, and a few others, we created the GOS, but it was all for nothing and what KILLS ME is this post of yours, yes it hurt seeing this all unfold but your single post here is why I am fed up with the GOS entirely. I am SORRY the original GOT ended up that way, but don't think for 1 min that I didn't try to re-correct my mistake!

    Now, you're the new admin of the GOS, have fun, and, gl.
     
  5. Shogun13 Lord of the Dance

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    It was somebody. I don't know who, I think it was you, but yeah I was white knighting in the most violent manner possible because somebody suggested it and I agreed.
     
  6. Sporadic Site Dev Moderator Director

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    Yeah, you white knighted for one person despite that being the point of the thread the entire time.

    [​IMG]

    Edit: To be fair, Natsuru, it wasn't just making one thread into an entire group that made it ruined. You completely tried to change the purpose of the Girls Only Thread and made it opposite from what it's entire intentions were on JD.net. It was always for guys and girls to joke / troll back and forth with each other. And when you joined JD.net you got angsty and serious then took it upon yourself to completely change the purpose of that thread by bawwing to Shogun who by the way never even posted in that thread either. And then when you made the thread into its own club you imposed a long list of rules which further defeated the original purpose of the thread. You prohibited the things which made that thread thrive. That coupled with the things I already mentioned about the group made it a ticking time bomb for failure.
     
  7. VeritasOdiumParit Cult of Personality

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    Huh? There was a few posts after your's in the WAR!! Thread... Anyways, I'm staying out of this >_>

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  8. Miss Elegent Serenity Your loveable social admin & RP president Moderator Community Relations Content Manager

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    I didn't want admin position, I'm just fed up with it being brought up and all this talk about "what we can do" and not "whats being done" to save it then everyone just disappears (which was beginning to be a pattern and questions were being brought to me as to what to do with it). How many more discussion were we gonna have about the 'ideas' for it and nothing be done about it?? so my post was a little harsh but the thing is I'm tired of discussing all these options which have been the same for months now, we have been discussing the same thing over and over again and nothing is being done about it. There were all these possibilities but nothing was ever done if something were done then the last post on the group wouldn't have been over 4 months ago, which was a recruit I did. But before that the last post was 7 months ago, also a post from me. How is anything being done if that was the time frame to the last posts??

    Its dead, so instead of beating a dead horse and getting nowhere, how about changing things up a little? and seeing if that worked? or just letting it go?
    which I have brought up the GvG idea time and time again, but no matter what I said all my ideas were ignored or argued against. So yeah you can see why I'm a little annoyed about the situation with this GOS as well. Since July 2014 nothing and I mean NOTHING has been done to keep the GOS going (and before going about making this on one person, this in no way is towards any one or two people but EVERYONE in the group). There was all this talk but no action and Trust me there have been times when I was in discussion about it, that I just wanted to bash my head off the wall about the GOS and just say screw it let it go.
    One because everyone that created it talked big at the beginning about all these ideas, put in so much work but once it was up maybe stuck around long enough to see it go up, then after a month or two just vanished. I stated in the beginning there was no point in putting in so much work because of the history it had to begin with. But I stuck around cause I had thought that with all these said plans it might of had a chance.
    Two those that were responsible for it, were never around to keep it going (and Im not just saying this for one or two people, but everyone).

    At one point when I was questioned about the group and no one else was around for a long time, I point blank said to get rid of it then, cause I couldn't keep it going myself when everyone was dealing with their personal lives and no one was around to help. I, just like everyone else on the forum have a personal life, but I always found time to come on and take care of things that needed done. Thing is when push comes to shove, no matter what I am dealing with (which at times I had a lot on my plate) I have always found time to check in on things, especially my RP group. If I can do it so can anyone else.

    So since I am the admin and nothing else is being done about it and it has been dead for practically 7 months now, I'm gonna do this:
    One I am not gonna discuss it with anyone, discussions are over, everyone had their chance to talk those that wanted to speak spoke and those that didn't speak its their loss. They had 7 months to do something about it and to be fair there were plenty of warnings.
    Two: after 7 months of nothing being done Im gonna take action. Change it to a Guy Vs Girl thread and move it to the asylum. There is no need to have the other discussions in there which, since it is dead, serves no point.

    UNLESS someone likes to see it as a guy vs girl group and want to help maintain it then I can maintain it and recruit them. I can gather other members who want to get involved in it and basically let it go from there. But overall I think its just better in the asylum so no one has responsibility over it, no one is arguing over it and no one is stressing over it. It can just be a free going thread.
     
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    @Sporadic I believe my prev post explained much of my sitch, the time it was back then and so on but just to clear up your confusion on the matter, back then, I said I was brand new, I didn't realize it was a "joke" and I honestly thought the girls wanted the guys out. (This was magnified by seeing the guy's only thread having only guys but no girls) As for what u said about "me" changing the purpose of the group/thread, u are VERY mistaken there. First, in regards to the thread itself, it was only like 1 month that the original had died (Also, a fact that the thread DID die and rise often throughout it's history) and after only 1 month of it being dead, we all got hit with what Noey put us and JD through and we lost our original home. I waited at least 1 full month to see if the original creator or SOMEONE was going to revive the thread, but they didn't so I took it upon myself to revive it but not out of guilt but because the original was fun, at THIS TIME I had realized my mistake and realized it was supposed to be like it was before, and I think the image I posted saying "Girls, you know what to do" made that very clear. HOWEVER! Some time after it was revived, you boys (Not you Spor but just boys in gen) decided to break the forum rules (Which we all know the rules were slacked on because JDR was a temp forum, just look at the avi/sig size as an example of this) and literally SPAM not play no games but actually SPAM the dang thread! You boys literally chased many of the girls away, @Miss Elegent Serenity can testify to this or any girl who was there that witnessed this could. (I think Serenity was there when that happened?) So then finally DT came, brought a new group system and after what happened with the boys and how they drove the girls away like that, OF COURSE I had to change it some! What else would prevent that horrendous spam from coming back? (Given the nature of the thread and what all happened before) Plus, one other thing to note here, if u think I alone single handledly created the GOS and it's "rules" you are wrong. It took many countless hrs of going back and forth between 4-5 other girls and asking them countless questions and we all put our vote in for what the group would be, majority won, heck, even the NAME came from this very way. As the one who came up with the idea for the new group, the only thing I really had a say in and enforced was, the group's rules and anything related to it would be held via a majority wins, because, it was not I who created the group alone, it was 4-5 girls including myself who created the GOS and most agreed with me on putting in some rules to prevent that boy spam of which, we never even had to enforce those rules, so please don't think it was the rules that drove people away when they weren't even enforced. (Heck, no one even got a strike let alone a ban) Even so, I kept the original thread and even made a WAR thread given the new layout of said group, WAR thread was most popular thread and sadly, because none of the girls besides a very small few kept their word and stuck around, the boys saw this and slowly left. So, I will say, what happened to the GOS was NOT my fault, what happened to the GOT after I recreated it was also NOT my fault, but what happened to the original GOT, WAS my fault and I don't deny that nor am making excuses, only stating facts.

    @Miss Elegent Serenity I tagged u above as well as here. If u read above, u will understand full well why nothing was done, but I will go ahead and say this new bit here, when everyone left, it was just you, me and Kiri left to do the majority wins thing for deciding stuff for the GOS, but Kiri never got back to my messages I left for her not long after that, not once, at some point she too gave up, maybe due to busy, maybe due to something else, I dunno but, when that happens and u and I were disagreeing with what to do, what else COULD be done? I tried waiting, but nothing, yes perhaps from the get go the group shoulda just been ran by 1 person instead of all of us, that was it's flaw and perhaps my fault as well but, I TRIED to be fair and do the right thing. I will say I am sorry I caused u so much pain and hurt, there is nothing I can do to change that or this whole mess and perhaps shoving the GOS onto u was selfish of me but, I CANNOT and WILL NOT see the GOT/GOS turned name wise into something that doesn't have Girls Only" in it's name as long as I was an admin or mod of the group, it wasn't as big of a deal to me back before we created the GOS and were deciding on a new name, but it is now and as I said before, I see NO POINT in naming it that when that's the thread's purpose anyway. After all, it won't change the facts, no one cared to keep it going besides you and me and a few others who were posting there for a bit and the WAR! thread stated what it's purpose was along with the rules stating it too so I see no point in renaming the thread/group when it won't change things besides the name but since u feel it will, the group is yours now to do with as u please, keep it, rename it, change it's purpose, do anything you want with it including what I suggested to do earlier in this here thread, to which u'll notice 1 Kiri is once again not responding to this matter and sorry but u were the only one left I COULD make admin given that fact. I am tired of this myself, u aren't the only one whose been hurt and such and I won't continue hurting myself over a group that NO ONE besides u and me actually cared for. In any case, you're now the admin, it's YOUR group to do what u want with it, sorry but I cannot keep going with the group after reading your post as well as no one caring for it and again, sorry for pushing this all onto you, though I hope this post explains why it was done. GL with whatever u decide to make/do with it.
     
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    Such text, much wall, no tldr availible eh?
     
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    @Nimander I think the Girls Only Society will turn into a Guys Vs Girls thread in the Asylum instead. But, that has yet to be confirmed.
     
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    @Natsuru-san The original thread died on JD.net because YOU had Shogun come in and ruin the fun. Nobody wanted any part of it after that. What I gotta say is assuming things isn't the best way to go. Maybe try reading a couple pages of back logs next time to understand the context before such a big deal is made about the situation. Had you done this in the first place, you would have realized the point of the GO thread and none of this would have happened. Your interpretation of the thread was misconstrued because of this which lead to a snowball effect of everything happening the way it did. The simple point is had you understood why and how the thread operated back on JD.net you probably wouldn't have went all tyrannical in the new group, enforcing all of these rules that really never had a purpose in the first place.

    Next, I'm pretty correct about you changing the propose of the thread. You first locked the group down to invite only and prevented any guys from posting there, the guys which were a large part of the original thread; again had you read backlogs this wouldn't have probably happened. Then when the guys were finally allowed into the group we were only allowed to originally post in the war thread. On top of that there were a ton of rules which contradicted the original purpose of the GO thread. Spamming was part of the thread, trolling was part of the thread and joking was part of the thread. It was always in good fun and never malicious. "Girls Only" was an ironic name for the thread because the guys had just as big a part with it, if not bigger, than the girls did. I'm not seeing how us continuing to run the thread in the same manner it has always been is ground for saying we ruined it. The fact is there was never many girls on JD and even fewer on JDR and even less on DTR and even less here. I'm pretty sure the focus of the trolling was on you anyways because of the gender bending stuff.

    Basically, it succeeded on JD and failed in DTR and on here. You had nothing to do with the thread on JD, it succeeded. You changed so many things and implemented a ton of rules on here, it failed.
     
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    Spor, I will not discuss the GOS/GOT with u any further, esp when you are saying stuff that I did which isn't true. What I've said in the last few posts on the matter IS the truth, I will NOT continue to be made to feel as though this is 100% MY fault, esp given everything that went down and happened. Yes I have already 3 times counting now admitted it was MY fault for coming in all new, not realizing etc. but at the same time, the thread continued at least a week after Shogun's white knighting which was when I thought of hey, let's just ignore them, and around that time, more and more began to ignore, it's not that they simply left because Shogun white knighted and hey, if they really did then, whose fault was it for leaving and taking my advice? Mine? Sure, but them leaving was THIER choice, not mine, if that's what really made them leave then the thread CLEARLY meant very little to them to begin with but again, I have already said I am at fault for being new and not realizing it was a game and I have already said much more on the whole GOS/GOT mess yet you are trying to spin this into something that it wasn't. I won't say more nor reply to any reply from you or Serenity on this matter. If Serenity does wish to talk to me about it, she can do so 1 on 1 in Skype.
     
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    I only call it like I see it.
     
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    I gave some extra time for these groups to become more active. The following groups will be effected. @Kiri please change the following groups as detailed below.

    If your club is not listed below the desired activity has been reached. If your club is being deleted you will be able to re-create it in three months pending admin approval.

    DT Shorts Club: Threads will be moved to temp section in the staff parent section. @VeritasOdiumParit will then go over the thread titles and determine where they needed to be moved according to their genre listing on MAL. Club shall be deleted.

    Girl's Only Society: All threads will be moved to the asylum. Club shall be deleted.

    L2JP: Threads will be moved to off topic. Club shall be deleted.

    Vocaloid Club: Threads will be moved to off topic. Club shall be deleted.

    The next inactive groups report will be done in three months.
     
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    @Sporadic I got everything where it needs to be, deleted the now empty clubs, and gave Mods the ability to see the temp node I made for the Shorts Club threads. Any Mod/Admin that wishes to help move those threads can use the normal In-line move option since I've already properly merged-moved them out of the club.
     
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