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Joo-ne "Chicks with Guns" Elimination Game

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    Even though no real difference...

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    Bisca – 10
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    Holy crap, Sawa has gotten 4 votes, I really didn't expect any other than mine actually.  But still @metazoxan using Bisca's daughter is just unfair for 2 reasons, first it is about Bisca, secondly a family is the thing Sawa doesn't have, see spoiler for me detail

    Isn’t it bad enough that she lost her parents at a young age [early teen], abused and raped from then on by her new caretaker who was a cop, forced to kill people then finally when she goes to leave she loses the only person she had come to like, and now she will be losing to someone that has a happy  life with a partner and a kid, so unfair.

    Aren't there anymore voters that'd like to see the first character from a hentai progress further, or does it being from 98 make it too old for people to like?

    I'll just leave this vid here again to show how awesome she is, violence and some sexual themes included
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFH9hBah-d8
     
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    Thanks Knight.
    I think I just saw softcore porn with softcore porn music.
     
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    Haha, no worries Karma. Although it is only partially implied with nothing shown so it is safe to post, I had to find the best safe vid as the others I was coming across were a lot more suggestive with the footage shown.

    But still, she shoots a guy in the crotch I think thats worth mentioning
     
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    I saw a bit of Kite..... though that was until the hentai moment.
     
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    @Supernatural Knight: Using Asuka is totally fair. Just look at how adorable she is!

    Beside Bisca is still certainly the definition of a gun user
     
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    The hentai moment, now I only watched one of the subsequent "censored" releases that even the director says is better than the original [most of the H scenes are implied not shown] yet still I am fairly sure there are a couple of them at least.
    I can't even remember what Bisca did anymore, I know she did somethings but she definitely didn't kill anyone nor did she portray the strength that Sawa does in 2 OVA's since she couldn't even confess. Also Sawa has a depressing past that would drive others to commit suicide over.
    Since I seriously can't remember much about Bisca can someone help me remember by saying what she did.
     
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    The hentai moment, now I only watched one of the subsequent “censored” releases that even the director says is better than the original [most of the H scenes are implied not shown] yet still I am fairly sure there are a couple of them at least.
    I can’t even remember what Bisca did anymore, I know she did somethings but she definitely didn’t kill anyone nor did she portray the strength that Sawa does in 2 OVA’s since she couldn’t even confess. Also Sawa has a depressing past that would drive others to commit suicide over.
    Since I seriously can’t remember much about Bisca can someone help me remember by saying what she did.


    She isn't part of the main cast really and is more part of the secondary cast and has only gotten a bit more attention recently due to her cute daughter. She's not really a minor character but she has never really been on a mission with the main characters execept when the entire guild fought together. But she is a magic gun user and she displays plenty of stength and would probably be the best sniper in Fairy Tail is the plot gave a damn about little things like proper strategy. Also just a depressing past doesn't make her a better character. With Fairy tails strongest members gone Bisca was probably one of the strongest remaining members (From what we have seen of her fight her shots are really good) so for those 7 years she helped hold what was left together while starting a family. So she deserves some credit for all that.

    Really I'd like to see more of Bisca in the series for a couple reasons. One is she is one of the few characters I know who actually got married and had children within the series (not counting epilogues) and another is she uses guns which would make her a good partner for Erza IMO who is mostly a sword user.
     
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    @metazoxan I know of Bisca and her being a gun user and being a fairly good shot, I just can't remember her actually doing very much other than when the guild was under attack from Gajeel's guild. I've seen all episodes and that small role she played there is the only time I can remember her even doing anything battle related on screen.
    Also it is kind of easy being the best sniper in the guild when you are the only one isn't it, or you meant in the show in general?
    I brought up Sawa's depressing past because in the last elimination game character depth was a factor in deciding the victor for people and I don't remember Bisca being very developed at all other than this is her fastforward 7 years she has a kid and a husband.

    Her strength I still don't know about, using the spoiler tags can you be more specific since that one fight with Gajeel's guild is all I can remember her being a part of.
     
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    @metazoxan I know of Bisca and her being a gun user and being a fairly good shot, I just can’t remember her actually doing very much other than when the guild was under attack from Gajeel’s guild. I’ve seen all episodes and that small role she played there is the only time I can remember her even doing anything battle related on screen.
    Also it is kind of easy being the best sniper in the guild when you are the only one isn’t it, or you meant in the show in general?
    I brought up Sawa’s depressing past because in the last elimination game character depth was a factor in deciding the victor for people and I don’t remember Bisca being very developed at all other than this is her fastforward 7 years she has a kid and a husband.

    Her strength I still don’t know about, using the spoiler tags can you be more specific since that one fight with Gajeel’s guild is all I can remember her being a part of.


    I know she was involved in something else but I can't quite remember it. I just remember she's demonstrated a decent amount of fire power. Also when I said best sniper I didn't mean just with a literal gun. In terms of all the guild members that can do any kinda long range attack she is the most accurate and precise. That shows how good she is with her guns. Also the character depth thing is a valid point. I just think Bisca has her own good points. She's gotten a bit of development here and there she just isn't a part of the core group that most of the adventures focus on.
     
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    Lols, the only thing I really remember about Bisca is that she shot down one of those lightning thingies and then got electrocuted XD
     
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    Best precision out of all the long range attacks, well that could be true from what little we saw but it looked like she lacked significant power. I would say her flaw of not having much depth is solely because the guild is that size so many characters would have to go without. @mafia, can't exactly call that a good display of strength now can we.

    @sporadic, can you help me, using any spoilers regarding Bisca up until the point the anime stopped at which shown her strength other than the small role she played during the fight between Gajeel's guild, I seriously can't remember any more scenes  showing her fight.

    I'm not saying Bisca isn't a cool character, I just want to see how many votes a character from 2 OVA's can get when she is from a typically hushed genre. This is one of the most discussed controversial hentai series though, so I was hoping more would know of Sawa, well at least she has 4 votes so since that is more than what I thought  she would get I'm happy regardless.
     
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    I haven't seen in awhile a worthy opponent for Meta's discussion :D
     
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    Dang, couldn't submit my bracket in time and missed the first round, people really hate Kampfer. On topic, I vote Bisca

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    Best precision out of all the long range attacks, well that could be true from what little we saw but it looked like she lacked significant power. I would say her flaw of not having much depth is solely because the guild is that size so many characters would have to go without. @mafia, can’t exactly call that a good display of strength now can we.

    @sporadic, can you help me, using any spoilers regarding Bisca up until the point the anime stopped at which shown her strength other than the small role she played during the fight between Gajeel’s guild, I seriously can’t remember any more scenes showing her fight.

    I’m not saying Bisca isn’t a cool character, I just want to see how many votes a character from 2 OVA’s can get when she is from a typically hushed genre. This is one of the most discussed controversial hentai series though, so I was hoping more would know of Sawa, well at least she has 4 votes so since that is more than what I thought she would get I’m happy regardless.



    To be Fair everyone got zapped by those thunder balls. It took a massive effort from the entire guild just to barely beat them. So yeah if she could have shot them all down herself then she would have been the strongest member of the guild. But it's probably true she isn't the best in the guild especially in terms of brute power. But I called her the best sniper not the best canon. But remember those pics I posted earlier? The one with two guns? Those guns are no joke. I don't really watch hentai (Seen a few clips and stuff but never actually sat through one) so I don't know much about the series she comes from so would you be so kind as to tell me a little about her? Does she have any sorta power or is she just good with a gun? If she is just good with a gun then Bisca wins in terms of power because her shots are still stronger than normal bullets.

    @Ovyda Well he does head the new release club. Being able to discuss opinions is kinda a must to really get into that kinda club. It's not like I like to argue specifically but it's nice to debate and trade opinions on things.
     
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    @ovyda, was the discussion worthy enough to manage to change your vote? [​IMG]

    and since Natsu missed quoting Zak's vote the true current result is

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    Got to go with Bisca

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    @Supernatural-Knight sorry... I am not going to vote for a person I don't know :( Unless it would be Louise vs anyone, then I'd go with anyone but Louise :D
     
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    @metazoxan, Those thunder balls were supposed to be strong so that not just anyone could break them, now considering that Bisca only manage to break one the same amount as [I think but I could be wrong] Happy  that doesn't sound too impressive considering his magic is only skill based and not offensive based. So it would mean that her level of willpower is the same as a flying cats, when compared to Erza's efforts this is minuscule and really didn't help very much at all. So stronger bullets are only as good as the user is, if they go down after 1 hit when a regular gun would of been enough there is no real point in even having the stronger ammo in that situation. Yes she is a good sniper but other than that and the fact she has a kid, her perceived strength is solely reliant on those weapons she holds which are magical and could therefore also be light since that s how magic tends to conveniently work in most situations [sudden power ups when needed sounds familiar so this could be possible], while her depth is fairly minimal.

    I just want to put this out there I have only seen 2 technically hentai series both of which focus more on the action side. So this one is one of 2, and has had numerous censored releases where the actual H is only implied not shown. For info about her I posted basically everything in the first spoiler when I used the @ function to get your attention, and I also posted the same vid twice showing some of her kills since she is basically an assassin.
    So no she has no other power or magic, but is still strong enough to become a hit man and to survive being essentially raped over the course of several years, different kind of strength but one that Bisca doesn't display due to her lacking depth.
    But you are at least wrong about the normal bullets, this is a show with a sic-fi feel to it set in the same universe with lifelike android sex slaves that can be mistaken as people [Mezzo Forte's series she has a brief appearance]. Her bullets actually do explode as seen in the vid I posted, and I don't remember how powerful Bisca's are from what they've hit so I can't say which character has the more powerful weapon.

    thanks for the compliment, I'm rather enjoying this discussion too even though I know that for the most part it is useless.

    @ovyda, damn, you know you could watch and finish it before times up on this round anyway, just a thought.
    But yeah I expected that, not like it would make a difference now anyway.
     
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