League of Legends Champion Discussion

Have questions about a particular champion or how to build its items/runes/masteries? Do you want to ask for champion recommendations? Or do you simply want to talk about how awesome or terrible or overpowered a champion is? This is the thread to do it! All champion talk should go here.

 

Picked up hec today, strong jungler but he's often banned out in silver elo ranked games. Still a really good pick up for jungling, he's really strong and tanky without any real tanky items early-mid game.

 

Hecarim definitely can get really strong, but just be sure to build right. I had a Hecarim recently throw a game that we were REALLY far ahead in because he went BF Sword and some other damage item and just melted in team fights. Iceborn Gauntlet and Spirit of the Elder Lizard should be enough, and if you want a bit more damage then get Last Whisper.

Speaking of that, a lot of people have been building Spirit of the Elder Lizard on non-jungling champions like Ezreal and Renekton. What do you guys think of it?

 

I'm not much of a fan of the spirit of the elder lizard on ez. To me it doesn't seem that strong from the traditional adc build. I've seen corki try it out as well but he didn't do too well early game and late game. He was a bit scary mid game though since he was packing alot of damage.

 

The biggest thing for me is that I'm not used to it. Bloodthirster is just as good if not better, especially since it gives extra lifesteal for laning, so I'll just take that safe route. I'll still go the rest of the "blue build" (Tear, Iceborn Gauntlet, CDR Boots, Last Whisper, Muramana) that's in style now for the poke and utility if the enemy team isn't too tanky.

 

So I saw this thread and decided to tell the people of this thread about this new meta. What one does is goes ap mid AND ap top, with both rushing will of the ancients. Because the auras stack, thats 40% spell vamp.
Thanks amazing already.
Secondly, you get 50 ap from the WOTA and 30 more from the aura. With 2 WOTAs you get 30 more, so in total both of you get 110 ap from this item when together, only spending 4400 amongst the both of you. Theoretically, that is the cheapest 110 ap you can possibly get.
Try it out ;D

 

Yeah, double AP with WotAs used to be the norm, but then they nerfed it. It's still good, as you say, but it's not the best case in every situation. They aren't very tanky, so they're vulnerable to hard initiates (Malphite, Blitzcrank), heavy burst and AoE comps (Orianna, Amumu), or just tanky champions that can survive bursts in general.

 

When I attempt this with my friend I tend to to mordehuehue top, and he goes oriana mid. The 40% spell vamp means my shield builds up faster, and late game it really helps you survive team fights when the enemy can burst you down.

 

Though I do understand were you are coming from. But again, if you're squishy you shouldn't be the one to initiate. If you are being initiated on, stay near your team and make sure you have wards. Wards save lives.
Another Idea i've had was smite on Blitzcrank. This means that he can smite the minions just before he grabs to secure the grab, he can help with early dragon, easy first golems, but most of all, he can solo steal the blue buff, which gives him a huge advantage early game in lane. all you need is wards.

 

I've been doing a TON of damage with Muramana on Ezreal recently, so I decided to do the math on it. With Iceborn Gauntlet, Muramana, level 18, and full mana, Muramana's on-hit toggle active gives Ezreal 152.7 damage per hit; that doesn't even include the AD from the item and its passive nor the utility from all the mana it gives. That's ridiculous. The on-hit damage alone rivals the DPS increase of Infinity Edge, yet IE is much more expensive. I think it'll get nerfed... probably by making the mana cost greater so that you can't just keep it on all the time, or by making the damage per hit lower.

 

So my main is ashe and i usually do really good with her, until someone uses master yi. I have absolutely no idea how to beat him. any ideas?

 

Are you building any defensive items? I know Ashe is AD carry but even squishies need at least 1 good defensive item to counter whatever's giving them the hardest time. Thing is with Yi, there's no way to keep him kited while that ulti is up. Best you can do is try to hang back and get him to burn it on someone else before you engage, but as far as items go, I'd consider grabbing a Thornmail or Randuin's Omen as your 4th/5th item if he's an AD Yi. Randuin's attack speed debuff combined with a good chunk of armor and health should be a nice hard counter to Yi's AS/AD, or if he's got some annoying life steal the Thornmail will shred it to pieces allowing you to burst him down quickly. Problem is I know the flavor of the month with Yi was also an AP build for a while, in which case IMO there's not that many good magic resist items to build on an AD carry. I've never found Banshee's Veil to be that useful, so I'd almost just go straight Warmog's and try to run and survive as long as I can until that ulti is burned up, then start kiting with frost arrows once he's vulnerable. Maybe Kusa has better ideas for countering AP. I really wish there was an equivalent MR item to Randuin's though. :/

 

This worked, thanks!

 

I've been practicing a lot of LeBlanc lately, and even though I haven't won that many games I'm improving my skills and she is funny as hell. Here is my inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmzLeDWk-nA&feature=c4-overview&list=UU3FG_gOPjOiHo1iWLtD1qDw

For the record I'm just playing normal games with her because I think's she's an interesting champion ^__^