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Kill la Kill discussion

Discussion in 'SOS Brigade (Clubs)' started by Supernatural-Knight, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. Sir-Maddy Finger Lickin' Good™

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    And also, Maddy, I didn’t think Ryuuko’s VA was doing a very good job until that sadistic part. [​IMG]



    >Not liking Ami Koshimizu
    Nigga that's my second favourite Seiyuu you just insulted, I'll fight you.

    Anyway I did end up watching the last 4 episodes today.
    It felt like a Symphogear ending, just with much more screaming.
    It was a solid 7/10 for me, can't wait for the special.
     
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    Although the entire time they were enemies and then become friends in the end???
    Didnt like that.
    Dont mind that I been trying to kill you forever but now we're BFFs.
    Blah

    Good end otherwise.
     
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    Although the entire time they were enemies and then become friends in the end???
    Didnt like that.
    Dont mind that I been trying to kill you forever but now we’re BFFs.
    Blah

    Good end otherwise.



    I think you're looking at it all wrong. Satsuki says later that the whole time she was training Ryuko to later use her to fight against Ragyou. She even appologizes for this and says how she should have just told Ryuko the truth and joined forces from the start. So Satsuki never had anything against Ryuko and the only reason Ryuko could hold a grudge at that point was being angry at being tricked. But they went through a lot during those last few battles so there was no reason for Ryuko to hold a grudge. Especially since Sastuki is basically her only remaining blood relative left. Remember how upset she was when the father she really didn't know was killed? Ryuko is the type of person who really cherishes family. So she wouldn't let a little thing like that get in the way.


    Anyway this was easily 9/10 for me maybe even 9.5/10. The only reason I'm not saying 10/10 is because to me that implies no flaws at all and every show has at least some flaws. Plus I would have liked a little more Epilogue but more on that later.

    The final episode was just amazing.

    We get an awesome fight with Satsuki and Ryuko fighting Ragyou while everyone else took on Nui and the transmitter.

    Ragyou in her Omnisilk form looked very final boss like which made the fight all the more awesome.

    Gamagori looked like gurren lagann with that Ego burst of his.

    I liked Ryuko's final form. No final episode is complete without an ultimate transformation.

    I kinda wish she had stuck to dual wielding rather than merging the blades together but it was still pretty cool

    Finally an explanation for that Absorbing thing and it made for an awesome finish. If you can't kill the final boss just eat him.
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    Nooooooooooooo! I'm so sad that Senketsu died. It does give the ending more impact but still I'm so sad he had to die. I was hoping up until the last minute that a fragment of him would survive in the end but no..... so sad.

    It was nice to at least get a silent epilogue during the credits although I want more.

    OMG was that Gamagori about to propose to Mako? He was wearing a white tux while hiding and holding flowers and I don't think he would propose to Satsuki.


    Okay final thoughts. I REALLY liked this anime. It had a lot of good action and didn't waste time. It had good characters and character development. I don't get why some people hate Mako so much because I like her. She provided some good comedic moments. Also it was just full of good plot twists that kept me guessing what would happen next. Because when this first started I never expected Ryuko and Satsuki to fight together as sisters or for the final battle to be in space. Ryuko turned out to be a much better character than I thought she'd be and Satsuki remained awesome even when she became a good guy. The Deva's were all also interesting each having a decent backstory and interesting personalities. I've heard some people talk about the fan service but it's never used cheaply. It had a point to it and is never exploited for the sake of exploiting it and it doesn't distract from the plot. Plus I've heard other people talk about how the fan service as well as a few other things were there to poke fun at other anime or even Japanese culture itself. I'm really sad to see this end and wish it had just two more episodes at least. The only thing I'm not satisfied with is the Epilogue. We only got glances at life after the final battle and while it's great we at least got that much I want to see more. Plus showing what looks like Gamagori ready to propose and not showing it is just cruel.

    Luckily there is an OVA that will be bundled with the last DVD release in September. Hopefully it will serve as a more complete epilogue so that we can really see what life after the final episode is like instead of just glancing like in the credits.


    I'd call this show a masterpiece and one of my favorite ever. It was funny, it was epic, it was just full of energy and used it to the fullest. I will make sure to buy this at some point if and when the dub comes out.
     
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    so the show is officaly done and boy that last episode went by fast
    anyone else get a dragon ball z and gurren lagann vibe from this show, if they are still making things up like they did with gurren lagann i honestly see it hard for them to change so quikly to works like yu yu hakusho or rurouni kenshin
     
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    so the show is officaly done and boy that last episode went by fast

    Spoiler:

    anyone else get a dragon ball z and gurren lagann vibe from this show, if they are still making things up like they did with gurren lagann i honestly see it hard for them to change so quikly to works like yu yu hakusho or rurouni kenshin




    I don't quite get what you mean by changing so quickly to Yu yu Hakusho. But it definately did have a similar feel to Gurren Lagann and that makes sense since the same people made both shows. It isn't really similar to DBZ at all though besides over the top fights.
     
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    [​IMG]

    The promised special was finally released yesterday and I finally had time to watch it. and it was pretty good. It did one important thing which was showing where most of the main cast is going from here on out. I'm a bit dissapointed about a couple things though
    • MakoXGamagori wasn't made canon because they lightly hinted at it throughout the series and it's driving me nuts that they teased it like that yet never actually confirmed it at all.
    • Ryuko just ditched the swords at the end like that. Even if the fighting was over they were still her old man's memento.
    • Ryuko and Satsuki aren't going to live together.
    • We didn't see that little epilogue shows in the credits of the last episode in any more detail. I was hoping they'd show us what happened during that scene in greater detail.
    Overall it was a nice episode and did help tie up a couple of the remaining loose ends and I'm happy that they are least gave of a epilouge unlike a lot of anime that just cut off after the final fight. But if they had just done a couple more things it would have been perfect.


    So what about the rest of you? What are your thoughts on the epilogue episode.
     
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    I was wondering who would be the first to post about this, I should have guessed it would've been you Meta.

    I liked this special episode, I was wondering what it could have been about considering the last scene of the series but having it take place before that was a great decision.

    I'm fine with MakoxGamagori being only hinted at, I don't think Mako knows what being in a relationship entails so this is probably best left as just hinted at [no this is not my hatred for the romance genre, okay it is not just my hatred for the romance genre]
    The scissor blade, I had an issue with her ditching them, those things were bloody handy. Apart from being a memento they helped complete the character. Although I am sure ditching them shows that she is ready to move on with her life.
    Satsuki still sounds like she has stuff she wants to do, and Ryuko likes living with Mako's family. I approve of this decision.
    I am fine without the final scene being shown again, that was them living their new lives and Kill la Kill was all about the battles. Having any more focus on daily life aspect during times of peace would have ruined this OVA for me.

    Basically since this kept the ridiculous levels high I really enjoyed it, that ultimate attack in the end was brilliant. How would someone even wield that? Also the voice of Senketsu, it was nice to hear him again.
     
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    Even so since this was basically an epilogue to the final battle I don't think it would have been bad for the episode to focus more on their lives after. Sure some of the energy would have been lost but a lot of Epilogues are like that. They aren't there to continue the action they are there to finish the story. The high levels of absurdity were fun to watch so I'm not really upset about those either though.

    Also I feel her constant mention about not wearing sailor uniforms anymore (Which was pretty obvious symbolism for growing up and leaving school days behind) would have been enough to show she was moving on with her life and leaving the blade behind was more of a waste. What if she needs to cut a REALLY big piece of paper or something?

    Oh I just remembered one other problem with this Ova though. At the end of the last episode Ragyou stated that the battle wasn't over and that life fibers would someday return because more existed throughout the universe. But besides them mentioning the sewing guy continuing to study them there is no mention of this. So they could have totally forgotten about that for all we know. Sure the chances of battles starting again any time soon are small so they should move on with their lives for now. But shouldn't they have taken a moment to address how they are going to deal with future life fibers? In fact that is even more reason Ryoko letting the swords sink was bad. Couldn't future generation have used them? Couldn't that guy have studied them in order to make more and better ones when the time came?

    I am glad they focused more on the characters lives after instead of future battles that we'll never see (Like Guren Laggann) but it still needed at least a few moments to be talked about.
     
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    But this is Kill la Kill from TRIGGER, there was no way they were going to tone down the absurdity, I'm curious if they had gone for a daily life end setting for this OVA if it would still feature some form of battle between 2 factions of some kind.

    Yeah she did mention not having the sailor suit a lot didn't she, to the point it was almost obnoxious. And I agree, those scissors were incredibly handy, scissors that can cut anything, grow and never dull, I'd definitely want a pair.

    Is that so? I don't remember everything about Kill la Kill anymore so I have no memory of Ragyou mentioning this now [I've watched too much stuff since then].
    I'm more curious how the sewing guy is going to study life fibres when they are gone from their planet, he surely can't extract one from Ryuko so they are pretty much all gone after the dark elite four were defeated.
    Chances are the next invasion of life fibres won't be for a very long time, and we all know that the general thoughts of humanity is that it won't affect us so why care? Maybe they think the future will be able to handle itself, Nudist beach weren't doing too bad now so tech of the future may be enough.

    Nah I think how it ended was fine, pretty much says that all fighting is done. The thing I dislike the most form this OVA is Satsuki's short hair, I hate it.
     
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    I don't mean they should have toned down the absurdity but I just mean if it happened to be a somewhat slow episode (For trigger) because it focused more on daily life I would have been fine with that. Plus like you said they could still fit in at least some battle if they wanted.

    I feel this episode was trying to make the message of the show more obvious to denser people. Because from the very start people have been saying that some of this stuff was symbolic and this Ova kind of tied that symbolism together while making it glaringly obvious for those that haven't figured it out that this show didn't just put her in a sailor suit for fan service.

    Well yeah for one thing remember the explination about how they came to earth in the first place? Some just happened to land on earth and started messing with life forms while trying to find hosts. Then at the end Ragyou makes it clear that the ones that landed on earth were not the only ones and other planets succeeded on the cocoon project and spread millions of them across the universe. So there are still plenty out there. As for the sewing guy he might still have a few samples left. Revocs still apparently had some left over so may he does too. He might not have enough to make an army of star uniforms anymore but he might still have enough to study.

    I'd be willing to buy that "The future can handle it" explination but I still feel they could have taken a moment to address it. you give the main villain this final speach about how life fibers will still win in the end....and then never address it? Really? Do you see why I have a problem with this? I'm not asking for half the episode to focus on preparing for the life fibers return but just a moment to seriously talk about it.

    As for the short hair it was already shown in the ending credits of the last episode so at this point she kinda had to do it. I don't like the short hair either but at least it was apparently symbolic and not just her changing her hair style.... and I really hope she doesn't develop her mothers taste in hair styles:eek:.
     
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    I think I just like how over the top it was, basically if TRIGGER had toned down this OVA it would have made me look at them differently. I'm hoping they keep this insane pace for all their shows because one of their next ones is a romance school super power series and I'd much rather watch them screw around with their powers than crush on each other.Maybe that is why I am glad this OVA stayed the same.

    There was no reason beyond FANSERVICE!!! Regardless of reasons the message was received loud and clear [probably, we don't know how dense the average internet user is].

    Oh this I do remember, the cocoon project was the life fibres way of spreading essentially its spores too devour the rest of the universe. I'm not sure why that slipped my mind until after reading that paragraph. So I guess another attack is always possible, wait does this mean we could eventually get a sequel? That would be interesting to see.
    I guess it is possible for the seeing guy to have some left over, there was a whole shitload after all, left over scraps occur all the time.

    Haha maybe that is their way of saying humanity won't ever lose to them, another cocky statement from Ryuko doesn't seem too farfetched to me. Realistically they should have kept them but I don't really care regardless, but it would have been amusing if they had of added a line of "what if they come back?" somewhere in there.

    I approve of it having a reason to be cut short but it just looks horrible on the character, definitely not a good look for Satsuki. Oh I think glowing hair could be interesting.........
     
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    Oh damn I know what you are talking about and I did not realize Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de was going to be made by trigger. I was already interested in this show but now it's a must watch. I'm definately nominating this when the time comes.

    Never underestimate the density of the average human mind.

    Yeah a sequal is entirely possible. Although to keep it more interesting I might like the story to focus on Ryuko's child (assuming she would ever have one). He/She could inherit Ryuko's life fibers and be forced to fight against a new army of life fibers or at the very least it should be an adult Ryuko to continue with the "Growing up" thing. Also remember that the life fibers only started turning into clothes because the life forms on earth at the time couldn't handle having them inside. Plus Ryuko and Ragyou prove that some humans are capable and life fibers that developed somewhere else could have slightly different properies so these ones may not have to take the form of clothes. If that were the case the second season could have a bunch of enemies with internal life fibers. Heck since these life fiber hosts wouldn't need clothes maybe season 2's enemy could be the remnants of Nudist Beach being corrupted by the life fibers and becoming the bad guys.
     
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    Damn, I gave a pretty vague description and yet you still knew exactly which series I meant Meta, impressive I must say. I don't even remember this title, maybe because I only just added it to my plan to watch. For now TRIGGER is like PA for me, I will watch everything they do until a few annoy me.

    Ooh I like the idea of Ryuko's child being the MC, I'd like to see it as a male since we had the super fan service sailor suit transformation so I'd be curious what would happen for a male protagonist.
    So we are good for a second season then? Male protagonist fighting Nudist Beach remnants in whatever over the top way possible.
    Back to reality, I don't remember too many of the important speeches from this show, after don't lose your way, fan service and those battles the speeches kind of took the backseat in this series. So future life fibres could be internal, well that will make them harder to flush out considering the only difference is internal. This is starting to sound like Aldnoah Zero here
     
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    So I too watched the OVA. I was overall happy with it. It was still as energetic as the anime was. I was not happy to see the Scissor sink. Oh and did anyone else see that one piece of Life Fiber that got absorbed into Ryuko's red hair?
     
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    NO LET ME STAY IN THE DREAM A LITTLE LONGER! jk

    But seriously that would be so awesome. Maybe he could also look like this guy from the upcoming Disgaea 5 game
    [​IMG]
    Yeah I guess she now has the ability to absorb life fibers directly. It's a shame this probably won't ever be explored or expanded upon.
     

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